Friday, September 14, 2012

WHITE ZOO RECORDS



In the middle of a global economic depression, what inspired you to begin White Zoo records and its new off shoot, Killed by Disco records?


I could not do anything else, I was one of those child turning over in his hands his favourite records dreaming of a day he would give the catalog number to the records of his own label.
Besides, you're right, it is a period of economic crisis and I’m selling just a few, I still have to cover the costs of those just made.
I also think it was the right thing to do, that someone has to publish those records, I guess they are great records.
With Killed by disco the idea was to remix some songs from the White Zoo bands and to publish stuff that makes me move my ass, which inevitably I’m going to do.

How did growing up in the South of Italy inspire you with its art and culture, does aggressive rock n roll and dance music deserve the same attention as legendary paintings and sculpture?


Growing up in southern Italy can be a source of inspiration in many ways, hahah! Certainly the art and culture of my places inspired me.
More generally, to answer your question, perhaps Mozart counts less than Bernini? Or The Velvet Underground less than Andy Warhol? So I would say that rock and roll and dance music are as important as the works of painters and sculptors, including those most legendary.

When we spoke earlier, you described yourself as a baroque punk. Could you explain to our American audience what that means and how does it differ from the commercial style of U.S top 40 punk, such as Green Day, Bad Religion, etc.


I grew up in a city, Lecce, in Puglia, where Baroque architecture and art plays an important part of aesthetics and culture, and this inevitably ends up influencing you, you begin to consider the meaning of art starting with the one which is nearest to you visually. The Baroque is extreme, in addition to being an explosion of different styles (Greek influence, Latin, Eastern…) meeting under the same style. To me “Punk” was always a matter of attitude as well, so when they ask me about punk rock, and sometimes you know how they can become pedantic or believe to be the custodians of absolute truth, dear Kevin, often I answer that to me it doesn’t matter that much because I am a baroque-punk, lol.
To understand and reflect about the Baroque influence, abouth how it could give you headaches and can be sexy I advice to these young Americans to watch Carmelo Bene movies, he was one of the greatest geniuses of the twentieth century, and he obviously came from my land. It’s time he should be discovered and appreciated in America, why I always have to take care of everything? Lol.

(Hermitage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOspx4bEJNI)
(Salomé: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZTkYt1mOFQ&feature=related)


There is worldwide underground of electro and punk fusion, how is this altering the landscape of the traditional band? Is there more music happening on-line or in the bars, where bands are basically selling drinks for the venues?


I think that “underground” always enjoy good health, people just need a bit of interest in good music and to be open minded.
However there has always been a hybrid genre. Blending punk and electro is not new at all. “Punk” has defined the “Post” of rock & roll and pop music so much, speaking of music and attitude, and it was inevitable and natural that many of these musicians felt some interest for weird electronic sounds. Just think of Suicide or Chrome, bands that fuse the most essential and acid rock with electronic sounds.
Just a few days ago I bought a record of Lou Champagne System on Medical Records, a label from Seattle devoted to the synth-punk of the late '70s and early '80s, which publishes excellent reprints. They also reprinted Chrisma, an italian band, for example.

How intense are Italian women? What role do women play in the male-dominated music industry? I always think if I band isn’t attracting female attention, it may need to revise its song process! Do you find this to be true?



Italian women can be as intense as any other. Sure there are differences, but also many common features. I’m Italian so I’m gonna talk about my mother! For example she’s a very intense woman: a strong mix of Arabic and Italian blood, and she has also a unique Afro hair. I always tried to make her angry the less than possible.
About the role that women play in the music industry I can tell you that it seems to me that things are changing, I happen to see more and more women play positions of power at the booking agencies or management agencies, but I don’t find a great difference between their behavior and the men behaviour. This is music business and it could be extremely boring.
Regarding the musical aspect I think you're right. Personally I am one of those that when hear or compose a song would privilege his feminine side. Of course it would be sad to put music or playing in a club and not see the girls having fun with the guys.

Do you feel that a band or individual that defines their existence by genre, are actually limiting their own expressions and exposure to the world? How much of an influence should real life experience be in the creative process?


It depends. Sometimes we use the definitions for convenience. Taxi for example used to say they play punk rock, but in my opinion they were the first to know that they were doing something different. The music, just as with real life, evolves no matter what the artists say or play or they say they are playing.
About myself as an individual you better go back to the concept of baroque-punk, hahaha.

With the breakthrough exposure of Guida in legendary rock journals such as Rolling Stone and Mojo, White Zoo is gaining momentum. What changes does the exposure have on your other releases?


I'm still waiting, hahaha! I think Giuda is a great band. But I also believe that all the other bands on White Zoo records are very great bands.
The Silver Cocks for example have created one of the greatest “Punk” record of the last decade, Livitnenko is a hymn. It is up to me as to them to achieve the deserved notoriety.

Where do you see White Zoo and Killed by Disco in the future? Will there be an Italian Invasion of music in the U.S?


There has always been this supposed Italian invasion on the American soil! What about punk or disco music of the 70s? What about Dave Mancuso, Francis Grasso, Johnny Genzale? Now make your way to the originals! Hahaha!
For the future I hope there will be enough place and money to keep producing the music I like with my two little creatures. I hope people have fun, laugh and have sex while listening to the music I produced. I hope to become as rich as Dino de Laurentiis and visit you in Los Angeles.

Is there anything you would like to say to our readers? Feel free to say whatever is on your mind….


Dear readers, this is my first American interview, so if you cross Kevin in a bar pay him a beer! Eternal love and respect for him! Ciao America!

cheers, We eagerly await the next move of Sergio and White Zoo!





Friday, September 7, 2012

Video Interview with the Dollyrots!

Kelly and Luis from the Dollyrots hang out with F&LLB to discuss the process of taking a DIY approach to doing their brand new album. Other chapters from this very cool interview coming soon...



Summer Issue is going strong and Fall is coming together with
Posh Boy, Jeff Smith(Hickoids), Kim Fowley, Dollyrots, Susan Surftone, WRONG BEACH



Thursday, August 30, 2012

Surf N' Destroy Radio

Surf N' Destroy Radio with Rick Hostage:
Destroying the World One Eardrum at a Time

read the full interview with awesome photos from Rick at WWW.FEARLOATHELB.COM



Hello Rick, you have quite a history in the Southern California Punk Rock scene. When did you first get involved with the scene and what inspired you to do so? How do you feel about the terms “punk” and “scene,” do they do justice to the individuals involved in creating and supporting independent music?



You know Kevin, that’s not something I’ve really ever thought about but it probably goes like this-I’ve always been a huge music fan forever, all music. I was always a sucker for 60’s-70’s pop and louder stuff like Bad Company, Sweet and the Stones. Mind you this was before the Pistols. Punk was a perfect combo of both. I clearly remember going to see the Plimsouls and 20/20 at some wacky Knott’s Berry Farm back to school thing in like ’79. I had just turned 15. Both of those bands were amazing that night, 20/20 was damn tight playing that Yellow Pills stuff…so this buddy of mine says you think that’s something, you need to come with me to the Whiskey one night. One month later, we saw the Cramps (in their prime) and I was blown away, then a few
months later the Dead Kennedys, I went to Zeds records on 7th Street in LONG BEACH and bought Black Flag’s Nervous Breakdown 7 inch…it was over after that.
That was the deal and attraction for me, with punk you could see tons of amazing bands any night of the week, it was exciting to not know what the hell was gonna go down. It was all for the taking and so unlike the waiting around for bands to come to town every few years. The Punk Scene stood for something, it was a way to say, we don’t need your hippie ass major label to make a band and a record, we’re gonna do it on our own. That was the best part, to say to the people who controlled music, you don’t control this.

In the year 2012, is underground aggressive rock n roll still relevant and why? Have you noticed an increase or decrease over the past decade in the music you promote and release?


Here’s my take on that Kevin, as long as it’s underground, it’s relevant. Underground almost always means to me that the only reward is doing it, no money coming anybody’s way. As for Hostage Records, things just kinda dried up in the local OC scene after 2004. When Club Mesa died, the end of new bands started. Things will perk up here and there, but the onslaught of new bands seems to be played out right now. I hope it comes back.

A cool thing that caught might attention was the introduction of your Podcast, “SURF AND DESTROY RADIO”. A free podcast appears to really attract many listeners to the culture and soundtrack of “Hostage Records”. Is there a new audience discovering the music? What kinds of interactions with new fans have you had that really stick out in your mind?



Here’s the deal on Surf and Destroy Radio. Paul Hostage and I wanted to re-start the label, so we figured let’s make this Podcast thing and play all the stuff we like from OC and see if anybody cares or listens. Maybe we’ll find some new bands. So we put it out there and the show got picked up by ITUNES, and then things just took off. The internet is an amazing thing, we’ve got people all over the world that listen to that show pretty faithfully. It’s really humbling because we are terrible at it, but we have a great time.

What is your take on female involvement in the “punk” scene over the last 15 years? Do girls still dig punkers? Would you say its male dominated or not?


Ahhh the lady question, I actually got in a huge fight over this one…here’s the deal, punk bands with female singers are pretty great when done right, what I don’t like and actually can’t stand is chick singers who scream their vocals like they
are yelling at me because I left the toilet seat up or something. The Avengers were great, Neighborhood Brats are great, the Go Go’s at the Starwood in 1980 were great, X is great…Joan Jett..amazing. That’s about all…BUT as far as girls in the punk scene, my crazy best friend, Dave Colvin and I loved to take fine girls non punk girls to shows. We start with the Dickies, then try TSOL or Social D back in like 81-82…that’s usually all they could take. But we tried. There was always fine looking girls at those TSOL and Social D shows, beat the hell outta a bunch of jocks at the DK’s show.

What kinds of crazy stories surround Hostage Records and Surf and Destroy Radio? The public would love to know!


I’ll take the 5th on that. But I do remember trying to get Joan Jett to call the Surf and Destroy Radio and give us an intro for the show. Her snarky publicist that I had to go through said, “Joan will be unable to call you”, but we’d be glad to give you free merchandise for the show. So I played it up, as I always do, like our show was some big deal, and she never bought it. Finally I tell the publicist, I want her (the publicist) to call the show and say, “this is Joan Jett’s publicist and she wants me to tell you that your listening to Surf and Destroy Radio”…she didn’t find the humor in that, althought I thought it was hilarious. The greatest part of Surf and Destroy Radio is listening in and seeing who we tricked into calling the show this session….Greg Ginn, Billy Zoom, Billy Joe, Johnny Knoxville, Joey Shithead, Keith Morris…they’ve all called. As far as Hostage, many things have gone down but I always get a laugh outta bands wanting to know about our tour package, like we’re Epitaph JR. or something Our tour package is a handful of 2 for 1 taco bell coupons, hit the road jack. I think an amazing fact about Hostage is that everybody on the label (50 records!!!) comes from a 20 mile radius except for the Bodies.

In terms of the Long Beach music scene, I feel it’s kind of the bastard child of OC and LA county. What is the OC take on the LA scene in general and is Long Beach included in your experiences with it?


I’m from Long Beach, so I know the pain. But seriously it has it’s advantages. I remember going to Hollywood shows where they hated the OC’s/HB’s, and they’d say “you assholes aren’t from OC are ya”, and we’d be like no way, those guys are dicks, we’re from Long Beach and they’d say oh hey that’s cool, here’s a beer. Then in OC, they say “you ain’t one of those LA new wave homos are ya?”...and we’ d say no way man, those dudes are posers, look at us we’re from Long Beach man, like TSOL, and they’d go, right on, here’s a beer….I always thought and will never be convinced otherwise that OC was a way better scene with WAY better bands that LA…hell when BYO did that big wigga wigga punk show in 1982 in LA at the Hollywood Palladium, all the bands were from OC…the Blades, SD, Adolescents, TSOL…seriously, post 1980 LA produced one great band-Bad Religion. OC produced…well you name it there are tons. The best thing about being from OC and going into LA was bumming them out, we’d swarm in, take over and leave. They couldn’t do anything to stop the invasion, it was too big.

What new releases and projects are you involved with currently? What is your favorite release that you have done?


Right now we are in a retro punk slam dance on Hostage. We figured why put out a bunch of bands trying to rip off the originals, when we can just get the originals to record some great lost stuff…we just finshed the amazing Love Canal and the Crowd, we’re going to do CH3 and Shattered Faith next….All the Hostage records are great in my book, people forget what the Hostage trip is though…we never put this stuff out to say here’s the greatest hand picked bands from OC, we approached the label like the Decline of Western Civilization,- a documentary thru vinyl instead of film. These are the bands in the scene, we put them out and you decide what you dig….Hostage is very different that way, we’ve taken big risks, we’ve lost money and we don’t care, its what had to be done to get the whole picture.


I admire your dedication to preservation of vinyl releases! How hard is it to release a vinyl record in 2012 and what is your biggest pet peeve in terms of bands asking you to “put out their record”?


Actually vinyl is easier to make and release now than when we started, the internet makes it go. Plus vinyl is making a huge comeback, really people want something tangible. That’s what vinyl gives them. The bands on Hostage have been really REALLY great to us. Look at Smogtown, those guys gave us the greatest songs from the late 90’s and just let us run with it, they never re-released them, hey just made more and respected what they had done.

Any last words or topics that you would like to rant or rave about? Thanks Rick and long live Hostage Records and Search and Destroy Radio!


My message is buy vinyl, it’s the most un-corporate music out there.

Saturday, August 18, 2012

ISSUE 1 ONLINE, MORE UNDERWORLD MAYHEM TO COME

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Tuesday, June 26, 2012

SUSAN DEY AND MY RACE TO THE BOTTOM

  I think the plan is for everyone to get a Ph.D. and invent something, then with the extra money we now have, we’ll hire solemn workers willing to get a small business and the blood of a permanent leak pumping, whatever…  Who cares, anyway I love going down this dimly lit alley to the store around the corner from me for cigarettes late at night.  Nice breeze, feeling kind of numb and observing the guy getting his 12 pack after work and a lady getting overpriced stale bread for her lunch to take to work.  I wonder if we’re all going back to our hiding spots for the rest of the night and thinking about the different lives we have to manage and bullshit we have to say but don’t really mean.  Like rehearsing for a part in a B movie, we will probably never get.  It’s better than trying to achieve some kind of math/science superiority to compete with other countries or some shit like that.  The race to the bottom is the refusal to “race to the top,” top of what?  A fantasy where “hey, I didn’t get stuck in your depression, I’m going places!” is a reality and “things are good again” for those who “really tried.”  This is not a rant of depression but one of relief in that starring in your own “B movie” is the greatest fucking thing ever.  You write the script, pick the cast, and get to perform 24/7 without the pressures of a film crew.  That’s what I always wanted for myself, I carefully studied movies like “Hardcore”, “Foxes”, “Valley Girl”, “Repo Man”, and most recently 1986’s “Echo Park” starring the exquisite Susan Dey, pictured above. 
  Susan has to rent out her beach house, 1 bedroom apartment to her pizza delivery guy who needs a place to live, she needs money.  Nice location, the sound of breaking waves and sounds of the city beating in an apartment built with thin walls.  Graffiti outside the front, barred windows, and a cool pattern of bright, dim, and broken street and sensor lights create the perfect balance of the wild world of living on the fringes on the industry in Los Angeles.  Not too far I’m in Long Beach realizing my home and neighborhood resemble all of the great trappings of aspiration, failure, don’t give a fuckness, and wild beauty of this place.  If a seedy city with its colorful characters were a woman, it would be Susan Dey.
  Susan wants to be an actress and places ads weekly for someone to hire her.  She gets the call after one year and it turns out to be a gig as a singing costumed birthday-stripper.  She loses her mojo after the 1st couple of jobs, then learns from her sleazy manager how to put your heart and soul into an academy award winning strip.  Don’t embarrass yourself, embarrass the sorry guys drooling over you.  Pizza guy says “you’re not an actress, you stripped tonight, you deliver pizzas just like me, I’m sick of this town and its aspiring actresses, models, musicians, and screenwriters…we’re all delivering pizzas.”  Good point, but…
  The fact is, how awesome is it that the waiter is writing a movie, the cashier has a band, the unemployed dude is recording songs about being unemployed.  That is fucking cool, and yeah, you might realize only a part of your dream, but at least you’re living it and able to cop a feel.  That’s 1000 times better than having never tried or living a life of fear that imprisons you in high school for eternity…. As Susan said DREAM ON, RIGHT MAN? Then playfully laughs.  YEAH, she’s right, dream on man, plus you get to live with Susan crashing out in the dining room with your inflatable mattress ( almost as good as sleeping on a beanbag, serious, not cold like a bed).   Now that’s a vision that can come to life and I wouldn’t take a mortgage over it.  The Perfect B-Movie has been the perfect vehicle in my life for finding a practical dragon to chase.  Nevertheless, this one you actually catch once in a while and realize I JUST WANT TO BE AT THE TOP OF THE BOTTOM.  Let me take a hit of that.
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Monday, June 18, 2012


Summertime, what a great time when confusion ensues and you think vague thoughts like the ones I’m typing now.  The first digital magazine issue of “FearLoatheLB” is underway and slated for an early to mid-July launch.  Some wild interviews and coverage of all topics in my head at the moment, with some help.  Stoned at the beach or playing guitar in a hidden corner brings to mind some ideas about a piece of reading material and why would you want to do it?  What do I gather while in the middle of my own scattered puzzle activities?  Well fuck, it’s like why the fuck do I read something?  In addition, what awesome communities of reckless abandon occupy the neighboring or not so neighboring crazy flat-out-fucked world I hang out in?

NONE.  And NONE.  I decided to see what underground art and activities take place in the Greater Los Angeles area.  Notable exceptions were lone wolf types that just wanted to express themselves, but not even as cliché as that, more like just “doing something” for the sake of fucking “doing something”, which holds way more weight than pretending to toy with expression because you have a new app for your phone or some meaningless piece of shitty music or prose that painfully mimics other bad shit done by someone else toying around to score a “hit” or get “famous”.  TOTAL BULLSHIT, I love the disillusionment though.  Fascinating, watching somebody search for an identity or uniform that grants some sort of acceptance by other invisible people. 

That being said, I’m doing a Rock n Roll magazine and keeping it seedy with every inappropriate detail.  Inappropriate detail is of the highest order, I think those details are the only thing that keeps up paying attention to one another.  While the days roll ahead and blurry evenings fill the smoking room, here’s my top 5 Summer songs, at least tonight.